Public radio and television personality Tavis Smiley has written 14 books, many of them bestsellers. But in his new book, Smiley shares surprising details from his personal life, like not getting his college degree until 16 years after marching with his class. Host Michel Martin and Smiley discuss how his failures have helped make him the accomplished man he is today, which is detailed in his new book Fail Up: 20 Lessons On Building Success From Failure.
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